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he tells us that we are to expect trials and suffering along the way. Feel free to join in or live vicariously! Amwayers use to say, once a direct always a direct. You saved my life and my future. I knew a lot of ambots who were still living at home with mommy and daddy and bragging about how much money they were making in Scamway. Have you ever taken a job anywhere else where your boss wanted you to fail? You're scum just like them. The comment above yours is very typical of an Amway Christian. The Financial Jonestown: My experience with the Amway Motivational Organization (AMO) URAssociation. An Ambot will never come back to clarify their "math". Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. Anonymous - I'm sure its a gross figure and its not the exact figure on Amway literature but its within a few thousand, I just like to work in round numbers. I was in Amway back in 96 to 99. Some Amway diamonds make the bulk of their income from speaking at Amway functions. !Anyway, Amway Diamonds are just overgrown adult loosers living in their mother's basements pretending to hit it big, while racking up some serious debt. If you feel that strongly about restaurants start writing your own blog but sorry I won't be by to read it because I just don't read things that I don't give a shit about. Lastly, everyone just needs to settle down. Take that shit somewhere else.3. It's one thing to say show the plan and its another thing to actually find a sucker willing to take a look at it. This is gross. Then they get punished and told never question upline. To some maybe but from what I've read, I'm not convinced it is. At least at Walmart and the other stores you can buy a single protein bar without buying a box of them. So, Darnell, is it WWDB? You might be interested in hearing their stories how not to let this happen in your life but when they avoid talking about it even though its public knowledge then its shady. You have to buy monthly membership to what ever cult sect you're part of like WWDB call it $50. You can find stories online of people spending $192,000 to "make" $30,000 (shit, we think there are actual cults with a higher rate of return). A good example is Larry Winters, a former car wash manager from North Carolina who has climbed his way to "Diamond" status in the Britt system. Let it go and quit wasting your time posting about a few bad people in a widely successful business that has been around longer than we have. Hello, it's me again, back from the meeting. Tobbi - you are probably right. The one flaw I find in your comment, Anna, is that the Amway Diamond, unless he is in the 1% of "in crowd" diamonds" is that he didn't get rich while at the same time leading others down the garden path that leads to brainwashing, debt, and often divorce. According to Amway literature Amway Diamonds make around $150,000 a year. My take away message is that anybody can start a legitimate E-commerce by simply googlinng Wikipedia E-commerce and start meaningful old school relationships with clients without scaming and degrading people in a mentally sick way. I've also found out that by doing a lot day in and day out in getting people to buy or make connections for them to join is tough but they say is well worth it. However, let's not forget the money one makes selling books and CDs and tickets to various functions. Great friend.yes u can make it happen also.great work.great idea.great dream.great lifestyle.see u on top.n peace. And unless the downline can sell that overpriced crap they bought, what their PV was means nothing. Now why don't you go find somewhere else on the Internet where you can spout off your canned Amspeak bullshit propaganda because around here we've heard all that shit before. We'd be happy to debunk your falsified assumptions.-Jerry. Thats something i'll never be able to say. I thought I might learn something so I decided to attend. Anonymous - when it comes to Amway, Diamonds are not forever! They do sell a lot of seminars and CDs though! The way to make money is selling CD's and tickets to functions. I'm surprised some assholes in his Amway upline hasn't already counselled with him about the hairstyle choice because that's all those Amway bastards do in night owls is bitch at the ambots about what they drive, what they wear, and their hair style. And yup everyone in our upline to Emerald had jobs other than Amway. Your really negative and you have some anger issues. You don't have to pay some fucking asshole in your Amway upline $100+ a month for that shit. Amway is all about selling the hope. So, the real money is in selling the dream. !That's one hell of night owl to be fired up from.Back in July I posted on this topic, 2 comments up. By the way 'anonymous from Nov 11' no money i spend goes to my upline. Youre a broke loser you fucking Amway Diamond according to the Amway IBOs in your downline! Let's just assume he purchased it over time at an average of $450 per share - so $450k out of his claim of making $1.22 million. Wonder how the wwdb cult leaders explain how they took 5+ yrs to get a new diamond. Maybe not every day during the week either. Amway only brings you a life of misery, debt, and destroyed relationships.Glad you saw through those lying bastards. & Help many peopel to make money. Anonymous - I think you've figured it out. !If you want unbiased look at the Dateline videos done by real reporters interviewing past and current Amway employees. Made up? Usually they're screeching this stuff everywhere they can!And why aren't you already retired? The rest they got from selling business tools (supposedly at cost; that is certainly what they told us). People quit. Amway and Scientology, Apart From the Labels, What's the Difference? You cant expect to make it big without the hussle. So please give us some hints like describe yourself or something. I would lean toward him being full of crap, though.Being an employee working for someone else at $150k per year is a good place to be. Thats where the money is ticket sales. They talk about their opulent lifestyles now, and tell those still struggling to build their Amway businesses that they can have the same thing, too, if they just work hard enough. Well, one thing is that mistakes even big embarrassing mistakes are a natural part of the entrepreneur's life. Ambit ambot treky gamer softball ballet wrestling scandal housewives of any city MLB nurses doctors attorneys teachers bus drivers painters janitors housekeepers air force sergeants college drop outs home wreckers divorcies engineers police officers ceos bankers hobos toilet cleaners garbage men truck drivers golfers successful failures sanguine shy opinionated blind crippled old young retired teens cashiers chefs ushers couple singles homosexuals tourist pilots greeters cloth folders designers tech gurus architects painters carpenters candle makers sales men machine operators gymist personal trainers secretaries managers call center workers horse riders sailors fishers skiers dancers. They are in negative numbers that month. haha! Why don't you show them the Amway printed literature you have to show all prospects. If youre an IBO then you should talk with your upline about strategies theyre using in your part of the world. If you love Amway and the assholes in your Amway upline so much, boy did you pick the wrong place on the Internet to hang out! He even handed me a free xs energy drink. Even if we are talking 4,000 diamondships (which many diamondships have two diamonds in it), that would be each diamondship running $16.5 million in volume annually. They can connect you with successful people who can help explain how to build the business. Scam! Shouldn't the FTC know that they are LYING about the income of this opportunity? My Wife Mrs Laxmi Singh & I myself building this awesome unique opportunity with the help of our great LOS and world best proven system. Life is short and you spend it blogging and shitting on Amway because you're a failure. Now the Internet has made it a more transparent society. Of course not because people in Amway don't believe anything unless someone else in Amway says it whether or not it's true, Amway ambots parrot the Amspeak from these assholes.I've done enough research minimal as it may be that I have a good idea what will happen to a person if they jump onto the subway lines that I don't have to experience it firsthand and can draw on someone else's experience that they got themself electrocuted to death. Like we havent heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!If your comment didnt get published it could be one of these reasons:1. My wife is with Amway too. Don't forget the tool scam money. I have an excellent credit rating but those fucking Amway assholes that read my blog accuse me of being broke. could you explain more about amway. Lets see if you paid cash for the house then there wouldnt be a mortgage and impossible for a bank to foreclose. I feel almost certain that it is a pyramid scheme that has only existed through a legal loophole (selling products)A guy i know is currently trying to get me to join Amway.. now my question is why these people are so focused on gaining more downlines when it seems they could make good profit just by selling products at markup. And I'm talking a low quality chocolate. So you may tout them as "investing" in their business, but with a real investment there has to be an eventual return. Amway Ambots love to say negative no matter how much they preach about never saying negative. I don't understand why getting new people to join is so much more important than just selling products. In Memoriam: Remembering Stars Who Passed Away From 2017-2018. www.bet.com. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. you call people in Amway stupid but the real idiots are the people that listen to you". You would not get to hear REAL stories like these in the opens, pase or on CDS. And that would mean an even bigger loss than a billion next year for Amway. Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amways publicity department who write press releases and blogs. But our Diamond distributors, because they bought in bulk, would have been given the same discount as a bookshop. World Wide Dream Builders (WWDB) is the largest and most successful Amway Motivational Organization. So says you on a post with over 100 comments. A few years ago I saw an Amway fact sheet that said more than 4000 business had qualifed at Diamond and above. There are plenty of inexpensive Rolls Royces on eBay for under $20k. And nowhere is that more true than in Amway! Its being ripped off by the scam.Yeah I remember the Amway cult leaders preaching over and over to show the plan. If these two men had the blind faith that you and the millions or other sheep around the world do, wouldn't they just sign up in the same fashion you did? Gets checked occasionally. A Q-12 platinum (lets assume 10K PV) runs at minimum $360K annually. Kind of like the Masons. The amway guys I know told me the amway downlnes can purchase the protein bars for 2$ each and sell for 3$ each.. that seems like some good profit if you get a lot of customers ordering bars every month.Also, the guys that tried recruiting me told me that there is a 90 day money back guarantee. You need to be asked to join the elite, and you are sworn to secrecy. They are greedy, wealth-based and sneer at the poor instead of helping them (though ironically Ambots tend to be poor themselves unless they have a great real J.O.B. I'm amazed the Amway media machine isn't blowing this out their asses that this immigrant made it big in Amway and has bought millions of dollars worth of businesses, etc etc. Maybe he really has those things and his debt will result in his retiring at 33 years old to his mansion in South America. People have enough of the Amway bullshit. Maybe Kenny Rogers put it best-Jerry, I mean i guess you were in the business. The amount of people each Ambot would have to have under them is prohibitively large to make any profit at all. As reported on this site several weeks ago, UK & ROI Amway Diamonds affiliated with IBS, Jerry & Mandy Scriven, Pat & Greta Gregory, and Dave Butler had not been offered renewed contracts with the "new" Amway.Amway itself confirmed this with a posting on the Amway media blog entitled IBS Unplugged.. Jerry and Mandy Scriven have now responded with a well written and well supported letter on . Where to start? Or as you put it there's a lying sack of shit born every minute. Anna, your blog ROCKS!!! There is no charge to read this blog, leave a comment, there's nothing for sale here, and the bananas don't get money for participating here.People in Amway want to make money off you. Finally, the coveted diamond pin. But sadly this is the story of 99% of the IBOs. You're wasting time, Anonymous! Bullshit. You do get rewarded. They flog overpriced shitty products to Ambots who are bullied by the upline to keep buying. Ah well, at least, she has proper spelling. The Amway cult leaders should just tell VanAndel and DeVos to fuck off and then they should move on to another MLM scam where they can flog their tools. Regarding the percentage of Alticors revenue that comes from Amway, a few years back (dont have a link handy sorry), the media reported Alticors non-Amway holdings as doing around $100 million. Anna. I once was recruited for Amway, and even signed up for a few months. I never made much money because I never followed the system. Hey I'm the last dude who wasted my life reading this blog so far :D Just take a minute and think carefully guys, would you guys listen to a person speaking tons of bad words or a person speaking nicely? I can feel it!". Absolutely correct! Miss America takes on paid sponsorships as do other pageants as do many others that have nothing to do with pageants. An Amway Diamond according to Amways literature is in the ballpark as our income. Being a millionaire. Notice how this blog is written in English? Me again. It started as us having a coffee and discussing our life goals and dreams, then he lend me a copy of "business of 21st century" by Robert kiyosaki and asked me to read it, and so I did, front to back. It was what I'd believed was success. Hi anna. A customer buys the Amway products for themselves, no matter what their pseudo business card says. For the calendar year 2021, the average income from Amway for all U.S. registered IBOs at the Founders Platinum level and below was $766 before expenses. If you have capital to build a business then do so help the economy and build something of your own. 90% of restaurants fail, and people lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, wiping them out financially. First, Diamonds make more than 150k. When you are Teamed up with the right team that actually cares about you, and builds your business because when you succeed then they succeed. The Amway marketing plan is very flexible. !With Amway, if it takes 10 years to get an income of $1000 a week, you are better off than traditional workers.So what if Amway people still have jobs. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Thanks for visiting! I already feel like I'm walking into a trap. Just let go of whatever made you write this post and you will be better off down the road. Amway Product Review: Artistry Skin Refinisher. Anna Banana-There is no negative in this post of Darnell's. Amway controls much of the process, from where ingredients are sourced (some come from nearly 6,000 acres of Amway-owned certified organic farmlands), to where they are manufactured. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. It only suggests you could be if you work hard at it.If it only provides $1000 or 2000 per month extra, that should already be awesome. Here are five cities with the best passes money can buy. I am saying for myself, I was taught and have higher business ethics then Scamway.Living my own dream, Freddy. Further these are some other facts about Amway Diamonds: 1. Anna. So if you go by Amway ambot logic if Im broke then so are Amway Diamonds. This is called ignorance growing a mouth. It is my fault for being too curious, I should have known that this "get rich " in a few years is too good to be true. I don't remember any Diamonds working outside jobs but they sure had to hustle their asses working the Amway scam and bullying their downline to buy more buy more! Amway is not a business, its having so much meaning for those peoples who want to create a Legacy in Life and want to live quality life with changing others lives positively in right direction. Depending how old they are they might not ever be able to bounce back from the Amway hell hole. The company itself is not the major problem, it is the sales organizations. Restaurant owners are scum! How Does A Ponzi Scheme Lure So Many Victims? I really just stumbled upon this blog but I took time out of my day to make a post. WHich was funny cause at the meetings they'd tell us we weren't recruiting enough people, but we had meetings like 3 days a week including all day saturday, and some sundays so I'm not completely sure when we were supposed to actually recruit. Nonsense. They reached the rank of Crown Ambassador in 2014. Amway's head office or an Ambot? Uplines DO!!! They are first people you should turn to for advice. Thank you for stopping by and setting us straight. Who should we believe? There's a lot of money lost and lives destroyed.Those motivational books and tapes you mentioned? One or two and maybe it is a fluke. Thanks! You might love the fucking assholes in your Amway upline so much that you'd be happy to suck dick and kiss ass. These days Amway Ambots easily spend a grand a month on this scam. so it doesn't seem like the protein bar price at least is unreasonable.. so i still feel like there is more to this scam that I dont understand. Who is Amway critic Joecool? Exactly as you mentioned. He claimed he's not valid to disclose the information, he however gave me the name of his "mentor" and a bottle of perfect water. Heck, who pays $10? Contrary what you may read by people who don't like what I have to say, this site and my commentary is not endorsed or financially supported in any way by Amway, Alticor, the IBOAI or any other affiliated companies or organizations. The big reason it smells so much like a pyramid scheme is because, despite loopholes, that is what it is. Likewise some of the Amway leaders have gone bankrupt and houses into foreclosure. A diamond is constantly on the road so i expect expenses would eat up at least half that. I remember qualifying on an incentive to visit Diamond Clark and Diana Broome's house in Loomis, California. Amway Global Nuevos Diamantes Pablo & Maria Garcia en Achievers: http://play.kendincos.com/155374/Wvzvztxfjdhptpt-amway-global-nuevos-diamantes-pablo-maria-garcia-en-a.html. 1965 - First Diamonds Recognized Dutts are Amway's first Diamonds, followed quickly by Hansens and Victors. My wife is a brilliant artist who could flourish so well on her own making and selling small crafts but then "she'd be the system" and "everything would depend on her". Same broke. You cannot expect to get "rich" overnight. 'We're buying a house in the Bayou Club. In other words they accuse someone in the same income bracket as a Diamond of being broke so that shows their low opinion of broke Amway diamonds! It's the only way to try to hold together a downline that is losing money month after month. Astonishingly, he makes $300k on a bad year and $460k on a good year. If lying and scamming people is part of being a Christian then you can see why so many people want no part of it. Free trips? Your right, diamond don't requalify, but their bonus checks still come in ever month and year and their income actually grows because the real money in made in the depth of your business, not by how many legs you have. And the McDonalds franchise owner makes their money on selling lots of product. Free returns. Believe it or notsome people do enjoy their careers. So maybe that accounts for a lot of Ambots who sign up with Amway the Cult of Greed. Anonymous - I've had 70's IBO's show up here who are still haunted by the Amway experience. I just wish this existed back in the late 80s and I wouldn't have to watch my parents spend tens of thousands of dollars on a lost dream. You Go 50/150 for 3 out of your first 6 months you get $50/per month that you do plus your regular business $'s you'll be around $60-$260/month that you do. But I don't think that fucker is going to believe you! Sometimes I've written a post and then off it goes into the twilight zone. Naming names? . LOL! And yeah most of the bad reputation is because of the antics of their commissioned saleforce and the various cult sects Amway allows to operate. Woo hoo! A nice racket, isn't it?Any white guy with an Afro must really be weird. You really think anyone that reads this blog is going to look at an Amway link? 4:45AM Anon?!? Some mug downline from the Diamond distributor is expected to do the work free. See, i don't love amway. So most of the sales an "IBO" would have would be to their own downline, as you bully them to meet their PV, though all they end up doing is filling closets and garages with the stuff since they don't have any buyers and can only use so much of the crap a month in self-consuming. Well, I dont think you will be setting any records.A lady in Sweden qualified diamond in 6 monthsI think she may have been in Double Diamond qualification by the 12 month mark. Or will you just continue to send your money up-line and be broke?Sound of crickets chirping.I thought so. The new IBO will receive an email with a link to complete the process, Share referral links to your favorite products and receive credit for all of your customer sales. (Thanks to Dr.Jayashree rath).have a great life.thanks. Well Amway is a pretend business so those ambots can pretend whatever title they want to be. It always amazed me how in the world can these so called "Diamonds" or "Emeralds" have so much money, yet need to have another job at least? This is something many people need to know. Nothing's for free. I'm doing posts about how people are getting prospected by ambots so this will fit in nicely. I just started with a new MLM, I've been skeptical of MLMs for years after this. Now that might be a ripoff but that part of it at least isn't necessarily scamming (20$ is the retail price of the lip gloss and he buys it discounted due to being part of Amway and paying fees for that).. now.. after all of that.. he still is begging me to join Amway.. there is something I am not being told here. Yeah he mentioned dreams multiple times and asked me about what mine is and said his team can help me achieve that, unbelievable. As long as they have a steady stream of suckers paying too much money for generic and substandard Amway products they've got no reason to make changes. Hi Anonymous.Guess they couldn't afford a coffee at McDonalds! They don't disclose all the hidden costs to you. Talk it over with this person. One is for a free ebook called Merchants of Deception and that will spell out to you exactly what life inside Amway is like. At least we sleep at normal nighttime hours and not up at the wee hours of the morning trying to figure out how much money diamonds make. The nut nodded, not realizing I was mocking. The primary drive of recruitment is fulfilling dreams of insurmountable wealth. Thats it. Its really sad that a manufacturer of good products is quite happy to see its reputation get flushed down the sewer. You said it Anonymous! I get from the blog description that you are married to an Amway IBO,the question is are you still married to him despite the fact you hate what he is doing that much , I read your blogs and i cant seem to understand why are you hating that Amway cooperation that much , did they like rip you off and didn't give you what you paid for or was your husband so busy in it and did not give you much time , please elaborate more . This site is my personal opinions about the Amway company. Instead it always " I am involved with a (fill in the blank) company. If they had their income would have gradually died off and theyd have lost their Double Diamond status. Avon closing in Australia and New Zealand, 15 consecutive months of growth for Amway North America. Now $150,000 sounds like a lot of money to young people or to those with lower wage types of jobs, or those who are just starting out in their careers. I can't believe my associates and I came to america illegally and in a few years made a fortune, wow you white people are cocky and just suck at business marketing. Yeah look amway pays me a solid check every year but with that check I became the proud owner of 4 McDonald's franchises, 2 Dennys Dinners, I own 1 Holiday Inn, 5 Gas Stations, and I own 1k shares of Apple, Cerner, Manchester United, and MicroSoft yeah but sure I'm an "amway lying cheat", I try to help people but they're to negative, lazy, with no ambition, but why care about people like you I'm rich and im not even legal, and I don't care if I get deported, ill just get to live in my Columbian Mansion, don't join any of those white people groups join equipo vision (team vision) my name's Theo again have a happy miserable life, working while im 33 and retired! I hissed at her because I belonged to Greenpeace (got my membership in 3rd grade) and the thought of the whole fur coat thing grossed me out, let alone, all these pathetic women clamoring to touch them. The point of this blog is to show that Amway is NOT a solution, it's a money-losing cult that MAKES problems for people, not solve them. They wouldn't have sunk into poverty, though, because they'd wisely invested their income and (at l east while we were distributors) they didn't live a flashy lifestyle. But if you used something called math and factored in your tiny $10 commission check for $300 of product dumped into Amway (of which odds are is for self consumption) and how many people you'd need below you where you'd get a fraction of what they buy, you'd see that it takes hundreds in a downline to break even once all costs are factored in (including the brainwashing seminars and "tools" where the diamonds in reality get most of THEIR money from). 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